Sunday, July 20, 2008

About European versus American education

By Madeleine Kando and Tom Kando

The other day a Dutch friend asked me what 'M.Ed.' stands for, because I sent a letter to IFAW about mother's book and I signed it with Madeleine Kando, M.Ed. So this is what I wrote back:

There are three levels of higher education in the US:
(1): BA and BS (Bachelor of Arts or Science).
(2): MA, MS and MEd (Master of Arts or Science or Education) and
(3): Ph.D. and Ed.D. (Doctor of Philosophy or Education).

A bit like in the old days in Holland, when you had a Kandidaats, a Doctoraal, etc. Typically, it takes 4 years to achieve the first of these levels - the BA - so if you graduate from High School at eighteen, as most kids do, you can expect to get a BA or a BS at 22, if you apply yourself and daddy pays all your bills.

"College" basically refers to this four-year education, and it is also called "undergraduate" education. In America, therefore, the Baccalaureate refers to this four-year degree which you receive four years beyond high school , whereas the European Baccalaureat (le "bachot" in France, for example), refers to your High School degree, at eighteen. To make things even more complicated, the word "University" in the US can include a 4-year college but more properly refers to institutions that offer the more advanced degrees of MA and Ph.D.

As to me, I have the second level, the MA or M.Ed. Tom has a Ph.D. I could teach at a college but I couldn't teach upper division courses because I don't have a Ph.D. I could assist Tom but I could not teach his classes (for one thing - I know nothing of sociology). He would be permitted to teach all MY classes (although he wouldn't do a very good job because he doesn't know anything about Education).

In the US, you have to have at least a B.A. to make an adequate living. That is, you must have completed a four-year college education. This is not because you learn important job skills in college, but because there has long been an "educational inflation" whereby everyone, including employers, feels that people without college degrees are bad people. So almost everyone wants to go to college, even people who have no business doing so.

Currently American High Schools generally prepare you for College. You may opt to go to a Technical High School instead which precludes any chance of continuing in academics and prepares you for a 'vocation'. But in general the education children receive between the ages of 12 and 18 is less specialized. Children are not 'tracked' in high school as they are in Holland. Even at the College level, even though a student has to have a 'major' and a 'minor' subject, they are not required to make a career choice until much later in their development.

Because of this 'generalized' approach to education it is fair to say that European High Schools teach their students more in-depth. All comparative international statistics show this. Certainly when we went to High School in the Netherlands over 40 years ago, the education we received was far more rigorous and demanding than an American High School education. Because of the 'tracking' system in Holland, Tom for example who was tracked in the highest level (Gymnasium), had to learn six languages! This would be unimaginable in America.

Also, America has not had "eind examens," those phenomenally stressful and elaborate one-week long comprehensive exams at the end of your final year in high school. Every European country has them. And if you fail them, you repeat your senior year.

So historically, you could say that an 18-year old Dutch student who is in the highest academic-preparatory track in High School is almost as advanced as a student who receives a B.A. at 22.

But this has to be qualified: First of all, I just said "almost." In fact, an American College graduate is better educated than a European High School graduate. So I would split the difference. Secondly, I've heard that European education has deteriorated. There is no way that European High School kids today get the same quality education as what you and I received at a Gymnasium or at a HBS in the fifties. Thirdly, America is now introducing comprehensive final exams ("eind examens") in its High Schools. Finally, the proportion of Americans who go on beyond High School (to College), is still higher than the number of Europeans who go on to University. So the qualitative differences between European and American education are vanishing.

Traditionally, there has been another interesting difference between Europe and America:In the US, when kids graduate from high school and leave home to go to college, they live on a 'campus', which is basically an expensive nursery for teenagers, where they sleep, eat, party and drink booze, and if they don't have too much of a hangover, go to classes. I am exaggerating of course. Some schools are extremely rigorous and competitive, like the Ivy League schools (Harvard, Radcliffe, MIT etc). But one of the reasons that higher education is becoming unaffordable in this country is because of this structure of trying to keep children in a protective cocoon while they are still 'maturing'.

So for millions of upper-middle class kids, it's almost like the US has given their children much more time to mature than in Europe. I sometimes wonder how the US became economically so successful, with such a wasteful and indulgent system of education.

Well, perhaps there are countervailing tendencies: It's true that European students who go on to higher education after high school are not held by the hand, as they are in the US. I remember all too well how confusing things were in Amsterdam, in that regard. You were totally on your own there, at the University - sink or swim.

BUT: How did most University students behave, if I remember correctly? Well, they spent most of their days sipping coffee or beer at Reynders and or the Ouwe Herberg; lighting joints of cannabis, partying every night of the week.

European youngsters may "mature" a little bit faster, but their work ethic is weak. This, in turn, is because there is much less pressure on them to hurry up and to get a job, because (1) they are less ambitious (call it materialistic) and (2) the government is more generous, so being a little bit poor is not a problem.

Finally: Here is how I would grade the educational systems on both sides of the Atlantic:

(1) Secondary Education (= High School): Europe still better than America, although declining advantage.

(2) Four-year BA (= College): About the same. There is enormous variation here. Some private 4-year liberal arts colleges (E.g. Dartmouth, Bennington, Wellesley, etc) are outstanding. Other ones, (E.g. some impoverished 4-year State colleges) are crummy.

(3) Advanced Higher Education (= Universities): America still has the best Universities in the world, both public and private. UC Berkeley is repeatedly voted to be the best public University in the world (most Nobel Prizes, most advanced research, etc.) and Harvard, Yale, the University of Chicago, etc, are all superior to all other universities in the world.

But again, it's all a matter of money. Like everything else in the universe, education is stratified. The privileged receive the best education in the world, and the rest of us go to schools and work in environments where many students (and some of the teachers) can't spell their own names.

Its' all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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7 comments:

Anonymous said...

As a typically beleaguered person preparing for graduate school, I made a beeline for this article, which now resides in my ever-expanding “Grad School” file. It’s rare to find such an honest and readable analysis of higher education, and it’s somewhat of a relief to me that the European system is also fallible. (I still kick myself for not studying abroad.)

I especially appreciate that the authors broach the often-evaded subject of money, which undeniably influences the duration, quality, and marketability of one’s education. What’s so disturbing to me is the growing number of Americans who cannot afford to go to college, let alone a brand-name university. My decision to terminate my education at the master’s level was swayed by economics, not lack of motivation. I would of course like to pursue a Ph.D. but, at the going rate, I can’t afford it. It’s bad enough that I’ll be paying off college loans well into menopause, so I resign myself to a truncated education and gracefully congratulate the 3% of Americans who made it to the doctoral stage. Now in my sixth month of researching graduate schools—and doing a double take every time I see the tuition rates—I am painfully aware that money is what ultimately distinguishes the educational haves and have-nots.

Indeed, education and income are and always have been correlated. The more education one has, the higher one’s income and, accordingly, one’s social position. But the authors intrepidly remind us that the reverse is also the case.

Anonymous said...

M. Massaro,
thanks for your comments. Right.$$.
College tuition cost has gone up much more rapidly than the overal inflation rate. Getting a Ph.D. at a private university (E.g. in the Ivy League) has become prohibitive. Still, public universities (The Pac Ten, Big Ten, SUNY, etc.) are still affordable. I dont know the exact cost of graduate education at, say, Berkeley or some other UC campus, but undergraduate tuition is still somewhere between $6,000 and $7,000,I believe.
Of course, you want to pay in-state tuition, so you must select a major graduate degree-granting university of the state in which you live.
Also: financial aid is still plentiful, in the form of outright grants and scholarships for those indigent enough and/or excellent enough to qualify, or in the form of loans whose interest rates go all the way down to zero.
Tom

pieter said...

very insightful

pieter said...

My brother made the following comment -"Be interesting to draw a chart of the points raised between (western)
Europe, the US, and then throw in 'developed' Asia (China, S. Korea, Japan,
Taiwan)"

Its a good point since the world no longer revolves around the USA and Europe only

Guynemer said...

Your analysis is basically correct. You could have mentioned that one of the reasons top US universities are excellent is that a lot people who got their primary and secondary education in Europe teach there.

Tom Kando said...

Guynemer?
How incredibly interesting (your name):
I grew up in France, as a great admirer of this ace French aviator, who was a major explorer/discoverer in places like South America, along with Mermoz, and was a hero in World War One...
You must be an aviator yourself?

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